X7 vs Q7, GLS, XC90

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greerSC

Discussion Starter · Mar 12, 2019

Came across a good specs comparison of the new X7 and its key rivals. Pricing and fuel economy is fairly close to what you will find in other SUV's of this size. Smaller turbo V6's seem to be the new norm. https://www.thecarconnection.com/compare/bmw_x7_2019_choices

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bavarianbob

· #2 · Mar 16, 2019

Nothing is THAT special about it.

Like any automaker that's seeing enough interested consumers, they'll want their piece of the pie rather than letting Range Rover and Mercedes have it like they always did.

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greerSC

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 19, 2019

Found a great chart that breaks down all the key figures in this class. The largest discrepancy is definitely price, as both the Q7 and JLR Discovery can be had for much less. Everyone has moved up to 8spd+ gearboxes.

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LittleJacob

· #4 · Apr 2, 2019

Emission standards and fuel economy targets are probably the main reasons for all these new high gear transmissions. Do we think that BMW plans on adding an M model down the line to closer compete with the GLS?

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bavarianbob

· #5 · May 6, 2019

LittleJacob said:
Emission standards and fuel economy targets are probably the main reasons for all these new high gear transmissions. Do we think that BMW plans on adding an M model down the line to closer compete with the GLS?

Last I heard the plans were scrapped.
BMW might regret it if underdogs like Lexus and Genesis compete in the same space in the coming years and see success. Both are due for new full-size SUV's.

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bavarianbob

· #6 · May 9, 2019

First we should question if a sporty X7 makes sense. That way we can figure out for ourselves if BMW will actually produce it and unfortunately as you'll read below that's not the case. Instead the X5 is the most fitting for that role.

read on....

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/04/15/does-m-sport-make-sense-for-the-bmw-x7/
Does M Sport make sense for the BMW X7

There's no question that the BMW X7 is a comfy, luxurious SUV. With seven genuine adult-sized seats and leather everywhere, the X7 is a sumptuous …

There's no question that the BMW X7 is a comfy, luxurious SUV. With seven genuine adult-sized seats and leather everywhere, the X7 is a sumptuous luxo-barge capable of being a superb family vehicle. No one is going to debate that. What might be up for debate, though, is whether or not it's a proper BMW and whether or not equipping an M Sport package makes any sense.

It might seem counter-productive to fit a BMW X7 with an M Sport package. The X7 is vast, heavy and luxurious, so giving it stiffer suspension, larger wheels and a slightly lower ride height is only going to make it worse, right? Surely it will just make the ride worse and still handle like a barge? It must, it's massive? Well, according to Autocar, it actually works surprisingly well.

Even with the M Sport package, Autocar's BMW X7 xDrive30d tester was very luxurious and comfortable, providing a soft suspension that never felt floaty, only composed. Yet, when the road got twisty, the Big Bimmer was actually, quite shockingly, decent to drive. Of course, no one will confuse it for a sports car and it's never going to thrill its driver, but its combination of accurate steering, athletic enough chassis and excellent outward visibility made it incredibly easy to place on the road. Hell, through some twisty bends, it might even be considered a fun, in the same way that watching an elephant do tricks is fun.

Autocar actually had very few, if any, real complaints. The only real knock against the X7 was that its interior maybe felt a bit too familiar to its X5 sibling. While it's obviously beautifully finished and impeccably built, so too is the BMW X5's interior for a much lower cost. So the fact remains that if you want a luxury SUV from BMW, the X5 is the smart choice. But if you need seven seats, the BMW X7 is a fantastic car that won't have you wanting for anything else.

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griff

· #7 · May 13, 2019

Can it not be argued that if Mercedes and Audi can justify performance versions, then BMW can?

Q7 and GL have high performing versions.

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bavarianbob

· #8 · Oct 20, 2019

The Mercedes GLS slipped in rankings, lower than the X7 and Range Rover in this one piece:

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2020 Mercedes GLS: Luxurious And Comfortable, But Not As Cool As An X7 Or Range Rover
If you want to buy a large premium SUV but can't afford to break the bank for a Bentley Bentayga or a Rolls-Royce Cullinan, your options right now are the BMW X7, the Lincoln Navigator, the Range Rover and the all-new Mercedes GLS.

An all-new Cadillac Escalade is also on its way, which means this bulky Merc definitely has its work cut out. However, according to reviewer Doug DeMuro, the GLS is very good at offering you ultra-modern features and a very comfortable ride.

Does this mean you should automatically purchase it over its rivals? Well, DeMuro feels that the 2020 GLS isn't quite as interesting (he calls it a 'Cool Factor') as the BMW X7 or the latest Lincoln Navigator. He also has the GLS rated lower than the 2018 Range Rover (mostly because of aesthetics), which doesn't really come as a surprise.

The model he sampled is the GLS 450 4Matic, which hs a price tag of $76,195 (including a $995 destination and delivery charge). While its equipment includes features such as the Premium Package, Lighting Package and Parking Assist Package as standard, it's the MBUX dual-display setup that steals the show, especially since it comes with Augmented Reality Navigation, which apparently works like a charm.

In the end though, if you find the GLS' styling not as great as the Range Rover's, then you'll always be more likely to purchase the latter instead of the so-called S-Class of SUVs.

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